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Phoenix's avatar

Unless you think we need to slash contract law for labor, housing, and finance to allow 40% interest loans with people's fridge contents as collateral or workers getting sucked into chicken nugget processors, it's clear that contracts have to be regulated to stop abuses by powerful parties. At some point a service becomes an important part of life for its user and for society. The alternative to signing these contracts is to pay exorbitant amounts for mostly legacy physical media and live without connection to the wider world. If we consider something like email, you'd genuinely be set back in a way that would affect your life if you didn't choose one or another service. Is there any realistic course other than government action to stop Google from reading my emails?

I'll give my take: There's a right and proper way to live life and treat your customers, bargain with merchants, rule over your subjects, obey authorities, raise a family, etc. The rule of law, including contracts, are only useful in so far as they define the good paths through life. Laws are useless when they obscure common sense and try to twist arms for individual benefit.

If we set all our words in stone, I'd be a million dollars in brother to my debt for a bag of candy. Scrolling through ten pages of terms, I feel the same way I did then. I don't get paid to read contracts. I don't have any colleagues giving me advice. I've never even seen a judge, how would I ever guess their reaction to a certain line?

There's a proper way to treat users and customers. No one actually believes a license is better than ownership, they're just screwing us for power and control. I'll never acknowledge the superiority of a system which isn't able to implement the simple solution to such greed.

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Silesianus's avatar

Baseline assumption of the contract law is both that the contracts will be enforced and that the enforcement will be fair. If we seek to fix any issues with those contracts that arise, we need to look beyond to courts, to culture and powrr dynamics playing out, as those will give rise to whatever terms are proposed. In line with caveat emptor, these then should be challenged prior to entering, ideally where it moves to bargaining, but we should not be compelled to enter into these, and perhaps that's what some people point to - circumstantial factors mean unfavourable terms are sometimes accepted as no viable alternatives are present (say bad tenancies that are accepted under threat of being homeless, etc).

In respect to digital TOS, similarly, these should be challenged prior to entering, but that requires cultural change and a certain critical mass of people, and far too many accept things unknowingly, hoping for the best.

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